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		<title>By: The Atomic Age &#187; The Symposium and Beyond</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Atomic Age &#187; The Symposium and Beyond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 23:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: yukimiyamotodepaul</title>
		<link>http://lucian.uchicago.edu/blogs/atomicage/2011/05/24/hiroshimanagasaki-class-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-13333</link>
		<dc:creator>yukimiyamotodepaul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 21:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I appreciate Catherine&#039;s comments on artistic expression of this issue, which was often overlooked in the discourse on nuclear weaponry/power.  

As for the Moore sculpture, I initially felt uneasy about it as well.  Then, I began to realize the ambiguities of it.  In other words, the sculpture looks like the shape of a mushroom cloud, which often represents the scientific achievement and a triumph of the war, instead of evoking our imagination for people&#039;s lives underneath the cloud. But it also appears to be a skull, doesn&#039;t it?  And I came to see the sculpture as embodiment of the ambiguity of science.  We still do not know, as epitomized in our postings, how to address moral and ethical implications of nuclear science--is fulfilling human curiosity ethically neutral? Or can we point to intrinsic wrongness in certain experiments? 

I did not think much of music, and thank you for drawing my attention to it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate Catherine&#8217;s comments on artistic expression of this issue, which was often overlooked in the discourse on nuclear weaponry/power.  </p>
<p>As for the Moore sculpture, I initially felt uneasy about it as well.  Then, I began to realize the ambiguities of it.  In other words, the sculpture looks like the shape of a mushroom cloud, which often represents the scientific achievement and a triumph of the war, instead of evoking our imagination for people&#8217;s lives underneath the cloud. But it also appears to be a skull, doesn&#8217;t it?  And I came to see the sculpture as embodiment of the ambiguity of science.  We still do not know, as epitomized in our postings, how to address moral and ethical implications of nuclear science&#8211;is fulfilling human curiosity ethically neutral? Or can we point to intrinsic wrongness in certain experiments? </p>
<p>I did not think much of music, and thank you for drawing my attention to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Catherine Khadabux</title>
		<link>http://lucian.uchicago.edu/blogs/atomicage/2011/05/24/hiroshimanagasaki-class-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-13236</link>
		<dc:creator>Catherine Khadabux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 18:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wanted to comment briefly on the Moore sculpture. As a fixture on campus, it’s always seemed weird to me. On one hand, I understand that it represents something so meaningful to the scientific community, in terms of global progress. The first sustained nuclear chain reaction is a BIG deal. But the statue as an object, with its resemblance to a mushroom cloud, as well as the later applications of that scientific discovery it memorializes, makes the entire piece feel somewhat uneasy to me. When I first came to the University of Chicago, I had no idea what that statue was for. The first time I saw it, a student was sitting inside the hollow part studying. And other times, it was surrounded by tourists (a lot of the ones I’d seen were groups of Japanese tourists). Most of the time, however, I never even paid attention to it. Now, however, every time I pass it, I find myself staring and feeling uneasy seeing other people’s lack of reaction. Is anyone else having a similar experience? Has your impression of the statue changed since taking this class? 
I also wanted to say something about “Atomic Mom”. I thought it was interesting that MT Silva chose to not conclude the film with the song she’d written. In the film when the song was first mentioned, I found myself wondering what it sounded like. At first, I was sort of disappointed that I never got to hear the song, but when Silva explained that viewers thought that the song was “trying to make them feel something,” I began to appreciate the time left for reflection at the end. Music has played a very powerful role in the films we’ve seen so far this quarter. Robert remarked last week that he had problems with the music in the DU video, and I remember the music in the French film we watched being similarly annoying for me. You don’t even notice the effect the music is having on you until it changes. I think it’s interesting that MT Silva chose to express her feelings through song, and it’s really cool that she consciously made the decision to end the film the way she did.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanted to comment briefly on the Moore sculpture. As a fixture on campus, it’s always seemed weird to me. On one hand, I understand that it represents something so meaningful to the scientific community, in terms of global progress. The first sustained nuclear chain reaction is a BIG deal. But the statue as an object, with its resemblance to a mushroom cloud, as well as the later applications of that scientific discovery it memorializes, makes the entire piece feel somewhat uneasy to me. When I first came to the University of Chicago, I had no idea what that statue was for. The first time I saw it, a student was sitting inside the hollow part studying. And other times, it was surrounded by tourists (a lot of the ones I’d seen were groups of Japanese tourists). Most of the time, however, I never even paid attention to it. Now, however, every time I pass it, I find myself staring and feeling uneasy seeing other people’s lack of reaction. Is anyone else having a similar experience? Has your impression of the statue changed since taking this class?<br />
I also wanted to say something about “Atomic Mom”. I thought it was interesting that MT Silva chose to not conclude the film with the song she’d written. In the film when the song was first mentioned, I found myself wondering what it sounded like. At first, I was sort of disappointed that I never got to hear the song, but when Silva explained that viewers thought that the song was “trying to make them feel something,” I began to appreciate the time left for reflection at the end. Music has played a very powerful role in the films we’ve seen so far this quarter. Robert remarked last week that he had problems with the music in the DU video, and I remember the music in the French film we watched being similarly annoying for me. You don’t even notice the effect the music is having on you until it changes. I think it’s interesting that MT Silva chose to express her feelings through song, and it’s really cool that she consciously made the decision to end the film the way she did.</p>
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		<title>By: yukimiyamotodepaul</title>
		<link>http://lucian.uchicago.edu/blogs/atomicage/2011/05/24/hiroshimanagasaki-class-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-13159</link>
		<dc:creator>yukimiyamotodepaul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 03:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I enjoy reading everyone&#039;s thoughtful comments.

I agree with Laura that &quot;it is ultimately up to us to consider the full moral and ethical consequences of any technology,&quot; not to let scientists off the hook, but not to create more victims due to my negligence.  This is from my own experiences of learning about the crippled nuclear power plants in Fukushima.  As a scholar who have researched atomic bomb victims and other radiation victims, I had always been against nuclear power plants, yet I did not commit myself fully.  Somehow to abolish nuclear weapons seemed more urgent than to be independent from nuclear energy--and now this prioritization itself indicates the fact that I actually bought into the &quot;safety myth&quot; of nuclear plants, prevailed in Japan.  Now I see that both nuclear weaponry and power plants are not separate issues, but are rooted in the same nuclear industry that is deeply embedded in our everyday life, beyond national borders.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoy reading everyone&#8217;s thoughtful comments.</p>
<p>I agree with Laura that &#8220;it is ultimately up to us to consider the full moral and ethical consequences of any technology,&#8221; not to let scientists off the hook, but not to create more victims due to my negligence.  This is from my own experiences of learning about the crippled nuclear power plants in Fukushima.  As a scholar who have researched atomic bomb victims and other radiation victims, I had always been against nuclear power plants, yet I did not commit myself fully.  Somehow to abolish nuclear weapons seemed more urgent than to be independent from nuclear energy&#8211;and now this prioritization itself indicates the fact that I actually bought into the &#8220;safety myth&#8221; of nuclear plants, prevailed in Japan.  Now I see that both nuclear weaponry and power plants are not separate issues, but are rooted in the same nuclear industry that is deeply embedded in our everyday life, beyond national borders.</p>
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		<title>By: yukimiyamotodepaul</title>
		<link>http://lucian.uchicago.edu/blogs/atomicage/2011/05/24/hiroshimanagasaki-class-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-13150</link>
		<dc:creator>yukimiyamotodepaul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 03:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just a little correction.  The panelist who presented pro-nuclear perspective was Dr. Tomomi Yamaguchi, another organizer of the symposium.  That was valuable piece of information, hard to attain, as those pro-nuclear activists tend to be very careful and alert in interacting with scholars.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a little correction.  The panelist who presented pro-nuclear perspective was Dr. Tomomi Yamaguchi, another organizer of the symposium.  That was valuable piece of information, hard to attain, as those pro-nuclear activists tend to be very careful and alert in interacting with scholars.</p>
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		<title>By: yukimiyamotodepaul</title>
		<link>http://lucian.uchicago.edu/blogs/atomicage/2011/05/24/hiroshimanagasaki-class-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-13149</link>
		<dc:creator>yukimiyamotodepaul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 03:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not that I disagree with Kimberly (I really enjoy reading all the posted comments), but I was also reminded that those scientists who were against the use of the atomic bomb have finished inventing it.  They were not necessarily against the creation of the bomb.  When they began to collect petitions against the use of it, their &quot;scientific curiosity&quot; was already fulfilled (recall what Dr. Nagel said at the symposium).  Also, Szilard was excluded from the project by that time, not in New Mexico.  These examples again do not exclude some scientists who refuse to work before pursuing their curiosity, though.

I appreciate it that Kimberly problematizes &quot;curiosity for curiosity&#039;s sake.&quot;  It is, even for the betterment of humanity (the question arises: how to define the betterment), highly unsettling to me, too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not that I disagree with Kimberly (I really enjoy reading all the posted comments), but I was also reminded that those scientists who were against the use of the atomic bomb have finished inventing it.  They were not necessarily against the creation of the bomb.  When they began to collect petitions against the use of it, their &#8220;scientific curiosity&#8221; was already fulfilled (recall what Dr. Nagel said at the symposium).  Also, Szilard was excluded from the project by that time, not in New Mexico.  These examples again do not exclude some scientists who refuse to work before pursuing their curiosity, though.</p>
<p>I appreciate it that Kimberly problematizes &#8220;curiosity for curiosity&#8217;s sake.&#8221;  It is, even for the betterment of humanity (the question arises: how to define the betterment), highly unsettling to me, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Kimberly Wright</title>
		<link>http://lucian.uchicago.edu/blogs/atomicage/2011/05/24/hiroshimanagasaki-class-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-13026</link>
		<dc:creator>Kimberly Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 17:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One interesting theme relating to the development of nuclear technology has been the role and responsibility of scientists in creating nuclear energy and weapons. In Atomic Mom, the director’s mother expresses profound regret over her role in performing experimentation on the effects of radioactivity. Seemingly caught up in pursuit of science and in an environment that stresses finding causes and results, her mother does not critically analyze the morality of their experiments until years later. This “type” of scientist that is detached from humanity is contrasted with the socially conscience one who actively advocates against the use of this knowledge and acknowledges that there should be a limit to scientific curiosity. The scientists that created the first atomic bombs were clearly against the use of the bombs without prior warning, even suggesting that this would lead to an arms race since this one use would justify future uses. The US should have created an international discussion on the creation of this powerful new weapon instead of dropping it in a show of bravado. With the McMahon Act, the atomic energy commission acquired authority over decisions regarding atomic energy, yet the military apparently interfered in the commission’s activities and research.

Still, it is easy to forget the promise nuclear technology was believed to have for society during its early development (and perhaps still today). Some believed that by the year 2000, half of the electricity produced in the United States would come from nuclear energy. Nuclear energy was thought to one day be economical for us to convert waste products into fertilizer, sea water into fresh water, coal into gasoline, and so forth. It could have been the answer for ‘have-not’ countries like India. It seems like most of the time we criticize the scientists for their immoral experiments (and they were sometimes pretty immoral..) it is mainly in retrospect, since we have realized that nuclear technology has not successfully evolved into the clean, safe energy source it was once believed to be. However, even though scientists may have realized how risky nuclear technology was back then, aren’t their experiments and continued development justifiable given their optimism of it developing into a great benefit for society? To me, it has never been “curiosity for curiosity’s sake,” but rather curiosity for the sake of humanity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One interesting theme relating to the development of nuclear technology has been the role and responsibility of scientists in creating nuclear energy and weapons. In Atomic Mom, the director’s mother expresses profound regret over her role in performing experimentation on the effects of radioactivity. Seemingly caught up in pursuit of science and in an environment that stresses finding causes and results, her mother does not critically analyze the morality of their experiments until years later. This “type” of scientist that is detached from humanity is contrasted with the socially conscience one who actively advocates against the use of this knowledge and acknowledges that there should be a limit to scientific curiosity. The scientists that created the first atomic bombs were clearly against the use of the bombs without prior warning, even suggesting that this would lead to an arms race since this one use would justify future uses. The US should have created an international discussion on the creation of this powerful new weapon instead of dropping it in a show of bravado. With the McMahon Act, the atomic energy commission acquired authority over decisions regarding atomic energy, yet the military apparently interfered in the commission’s activities and research.</p>
<p>Still, it is easy to forget the promise nuclear technology was believed to have for society during its early development (and perhaps still today). Some believed that by the year 2000, half of the electricity produced in the United States would come from nuclear energy. Nuclear energy was thought to one day be economical for us to convert waste products into fertilizer, sea water into fresh water, coal into gasoline, and so forth. It could have been the answer for ‘have-not’ countries like India. It seems like most of the time we criticize the scientists for their immoral experiments (and they were sometimes pretty immoral..) it is mainly in retrospect, since we have realized that nuclear technology has not successfully evolved into the clean, safe energy source it was once believed to be. However, even though scientists may have realized how risky nuclear technology was back then, aren’t their experiments and continued development justifiable given their optimism of it developing into a great benefit for society? To me, it has never been “curiosity for curiosity’s sake,” but rather curiosity for the sake of humanity.</p>
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		<title>By: Sophie Benbenek</title>
		<link>http://lucian.uchicago.edu/blogs/atomicage/2011/05/24/hiroshimanagasaki-class-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-13024</link>
		<dc:creator>Sophie Benbenek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 17:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[After Atomic Mom I didn’t feel particularly moved; I felt rather uncomfortable. It was a very personal story that seemed isolated to MT Silvia. There were no interviews with other “atomic mom’s” or any mention of MT Silvia’s sisters point of view. Nor was there any discussion on the pople Pauline worked with at the testing. These were all aspects that I felt could have connected the movie to a larger audience. It was too focused on MT’s emotional story and it was hard for me to get much out of it. Ashes to Honey on the other hand was hands down the best anti-nuclear documentary I have seen. Unfortunately I find many documentaries focus solely on the negative aspects of things. They point out the problems and the blemishes and do a very poor job at finding solutions to things. These sorts of documentaries only do half the job. If there is no way to fix it, is it worth informing the public about? However Ashes to Honey actually provided answers to the energy issue and evidence of real people’s efforts to stop the nuclear industry. I have to disagree with Grace, I think the issue may have been neatly wrapped in Ashes to Honey, but it gave the anti-nuclear movement a clear thesis so to say. It made it much easier to understand exactly what was wrong and how there were viable solutions. Trying to inform of everything at once doesn’t work for the general public. The movie is supposed to act as the base for more research and information, it has to be convincing.
The issue that jumped out the most to me was that of responsibility. I found it interesting that MT Silvia was adamantly against granting responsibility to the scientists, while the scientists believed they should have responsibility. One would think that would work the other way, the outsider placing blame and the insider rejecting it. However it almost seemed like a pride thing, Pauline and the scientists on the board stated they were in some ways proud of their research. It was new and exciting. Thus it is their right to hold claim to how their findings affect the world. It was interesting to attempt to draw a line between curiousity and common sense. Will there someday be a line humanity won’t cross in research? We’ve already undertaken things that could create black holes and giant explosions, it doesn’t seem like this could ever happen.
I think more than having responsibility for their creations scientists have a duty to inform the public. Transparency and freedom of information is of the utmost importance because I believe in a democratic society it is the people’s job to protect the technologies. One of the pannel members said we must plan the energy sector or nothing will happen. We is not limited to the government or higher up officials. Without public backing, no government is going to decisively do anything. The public needs to become more informed so that it can begin to make choices that can help cure the energy industry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After Atomic Mom I didn’t feel particularly moved; I felt rather uncomfortable. It was a very personal story that seemed isolated to MT Silvia. There were no interviews with other “atomic mom’s” or any mention of MT Silvia’s sisters point of view. Nor was there any discussion on the pople Pauline worked with at the testing. These were all aspects that I felt could have connected the movie to a larger audience. It was too focused on MT’s emotional story and it was hard for me to get much out of it. Ashes to Honey on the other hand was hands down the best anti-nuclear documentary I have seen. Unfortunately I find many documentaries focus solely on the negative aspects of things. They point out the problems and the blemishes and do a very poor job at finding solutions to things. These sorts of documentaries only do half the job. If there is no way to fix it, is it worth informing the public about? However Ashes to Honey actually provided answers to the energy issue and evidence of real people’s efforts to stop the nuclear industry. I have to disagree with Grace, I think the issue may have been neatly wrapped in Ashes to Honey, but it gave the anti-nuclear movement a clear thesis so to say. It made it much easier to understand exactly what was wrong and how there were viable solutions. Trying to inform of everything at once doesn’t work for the general public. The movie is supposed to act as the base for more research and information, it has to be convincing.<br />
The issue that jumped out the most to me was that of responsibility. I found it interesting that MT Silvia was adamantly against granting responsibility to the scientists, while the scientists believed they should have responsibility. One would think that would work the other way, the outsider placing blame and the insider rejecting it. However it almost seemed like a pride thing, Pauline and the scientists on the board stated they were in some ways proud of their research. It was new and exciting. Thus it is their right to hold claim to how their findings affect the world. It was interesting to attempt to draw a line between curiousity and common sense. Will there someday be a line humanity won’t cross in research? We’ve already undertaken things that could create black holes and giant explosions, it doesn’t seem like this could ever happen.<br />
I think more than having responsibility for their creations scientists have a duty to inform the public. Transparency and freedom of information is of the utmost importance because I believe in a democratic society it is the people’s job to protect the technologies. One of the pannel members said we must plan the energy sector or nothing will happen. We is not limited to the government or higher up officials. Without public backing, no government is going to decisively do anything. The public needs to become more informed so that it can begin to make choices that can help cure the energy industry.</p>
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		<title>By: Aiko Kojima</title>
		<link>http://lucian.uchicago.edu/blogs/atomicage/2011/05/24/hiroshimanagasaki-class-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-13023</link>
		<dc:creator>Aiko Kojima</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 17:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reading all comments, I find some good points and some not, but still, cannot help but have an impression that unfortunately for the large part of the audience the risk of having nuclear power plants may still be regarded as someone else’s affair. While seemingly most of the people have less difficulties to discuss about the harm of nuclear weapons, once it comes to nuclear power I recognize many of them become uneasy to make their words articulate.

As Dr. Benedict clearly put, “either military use or civilian use”, at the end of the day it is nothing but the radiation risk to human, animals, and environment what we are all confronting. You may call it a biased propaganda, however, before the fact that one may not be able to take her son to see his grandparents in Japan indefinitely, which means that his old grandparents who have difficulties to travel to the states may not be able to see their only grandchild forever, the fact that one need to think twice if she would like to have a child in future given her planned research trip to Japan in next month, and the fact that women in Japan who have just gave births to their babies are worrying about not only how to nurse them when radioactive substances were found in a mother’s breast milk, but also whether it would be OK to bathe them in tap water when they have difficulties to secure safe water even for drinking, evaluations of merits and demerits of nuclear power, in/feasibility of non-nuclear options, or the differentiation between military and civilian use of nuclear power mean very little. I just want people to seriously recall Director Kamanaka’s appreciation for the air from open windows.

I do not oppose against an opinion that it would have been nice if ATH could include footage and words of nuclear power supporters as well, although, I realize the every efforts the director made to do so. Isn’t it too much burden for one filmmaker, if s/he is undervalued until s/he succeeds in including both sides to make a “balanced” claim? I do not oppose either against a suggestion that the symposium could have invited nuclear scientists to cover the diverse stances, with being surprised by its implication that Argonne and Fermi scientists are disqualified. All nuclear plants in the world were planned, designed, operated, and some of them went out of control under the expertise of scientists. Among them there indeed exist many scientists who take their responsibility and keep presenting the data and analyses to prove the enormous danger of nuclear power with their expertise. In fact in Japan 16 nuclear scientists who have been taking initiatives in the national nuclear energy policy made a public apology for their inability to estimate the risk. I wonder what if one of those 16 would have been invited to the symposium. Would it have satisfied all audience? Or would he have been also disqualified because he does not represent the other stance, –or because he is not known in the states, even if he is indeed a nuclear expert? History shows that when “the experts” are demanded as the absolute authority in nuclear discussions, what is often demanded indeed is not his expertise per se, but his supporting of nuclear power. You will see what I mean if you have a chance to watch news programs in Japanese TV after Fukushima.

I just hope everyone thinks about nuclear power and its incomparable risk as your own problem, not as a problem somewhere in Far East. Congratulations that we, at least the midwesterners, are highly unlikely to have earthquakes and tsunami. But tornadoes? Floods? Minor mistakes that can lead to a major accident? I cannot emphasize more that nuclear is not a clean energy no matter what merits it has. I beg each of you to use your imagination before it gets too late. We don’t want to repeat the phrase “we thought we would have more time”.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading all comments, I find some good points and some not, but still, cannot help but have an impression that unfortunately for the large part of the audience the risk of having nuclear power plants may still be regarded as someone else’s affair. While seemingly most of the people have less difficulties to discuss about the harm of nuclear weapons, once it comes to nuclear power I recognize many of them become uneasy to make their words articulate.</p>
<p>As Dr. Benedict clearly put, “either military use or civilian use”, at the end of the day it is nothing but the radiation risk to human, animals, and environment what we are all confronting. You may call it a biased propaganda, however, before the fact that one may not be able to take her son to see his grandparents in Japan indefinitely, which means that his old grandparents who have difficulties to travel to the states may not be able to see their only grandchild forever, the fact that one need to think twice if she would like to have a child in future given her planned research trip to Japan in next month, and the fact that women in Japan who have just gave births to their babies are worrying about not only how to nurse them when radioactive substances were found in a mother’s breast milk, but also whether it would be OK to bathe them in tap water when they have difficulties to secure safe water even for drinking, evaluations of merits and demerits of nuclear power, in/feasibility of non-nuclear options, or the differentiation between military and civilian use of nuclear power mean very little. I just want people to seriously recall Director Kamanaka’s appreciation for the air from open windows.</p>
<p>I do not oppose against an opinion that it would have been nice if ATH could include footage and words of nuclear power supporters as well, although, I realize the every efforts the director made to do so. Isn’t it too much burden for one filmmaker, if s/he is undervalued until s/he succeeds in including both sides to make a “balanced” claim? I do not oppose either against a suggestion that the symposium could have invited nuclear scientists to cover the diverse stances, with being surprised by its implication that Argonne and Fermi scientists are disqualified. All nuclear plants in the world were planned, designed, operated, and some of them went out of control under the expertise of scientists. Among them there indeed exist many scientists who take their responsibility and keep presenting the data and analyses to prove the enormous danger of nuclear power with their expertise. In fact in Japan 16 nuclear scientists who have been taking initiatives in the national nuclear energy policy made a public apology for their inability to estimate the risk. I wonder what if one of those 16 would have been invited to the symposium. Would it have satisfied all audience? Or would he have been also disqualified because he does not represent the other stance, –or because he is not known in the states, even if he is indeed a nuclear expert? History shows that when “the experts” are demanded as the absolute authority in nuclear discussions, what is often demanded indeed is not his expertise per se, but his supporting of nuclear power. You will see what I mean if you have a chance to watch news programs in Japanese TV after Fukushima.</p>
<p>I just hope everyone thinks about nuclear power and its incomparable risk as your own problem, not as a problem somewhere in Far East. Congratulations that we, at least the midwesterners, are highly unlikely to have earthquakes and tsunami. But tornadoes? Floods? Minor mistakes that can lead to a major accident? I cannot emphasize more that nuclear is not a clean energy no matter what merits it has. I beg each of you to use your imagination before it gets too late. We don’t want to repeat the phrase “we thought we would have more time”.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Hsiao</title>
		<link>http://lucian.uchicago.edu/blogs/atomicage/2011/05/24/hiroshimanagasaki-class-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-13022</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer Hsiao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 17:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wanted to share Atomic Mom with my interlocutor, because I found it interesting that the two women had such different experiences about the atomic bomb and wanted to find out if that cross-generational gap could be crossed in other instances. My interlocutor’s grandparents were interned during WWII and so I asked if he ever felt distance from his family due to the fact that he didn’t himself experience those negative events. What the film demonstrates is that when we attempt to understand one another, what is important in creating a connection is more than shared culture or experience, but a system of values that hold meaning to us. I’m not Japanese, but I can feel an immense feeling of human empathy from learning about the atomic bombings. We have discussed how hibakusha sometimes feel that they cannot claim a right to that identity for not having suffered the same sort of pain or memory as others. But both my interlocutor and I find that if we learn and educate ourselves about these experiences, as MT Silvia genuinely tried to understand her mother, we can gain that understanding. Another thing that this film showed was that the choosing of subjects for a documentary is important. How much of a role does gender play in understanding how these individuals have come to peace with the atrocities of the past? In what ways can you alter the message of a piece by choosing quieter scenes vs. raw footage of physical human and material damage?

Ashes to Honey seeks to answer the question of how we can find sustainability in developed societies that are heavily dependent on energy. Japan has the dilemma of needing nuclear energy but possessing a history of pain inflicted by the atomic bombings. Japan is also a country prone to earthquakes, further raising the need for Japan to look for alternatives, as the current situation with Tohoku/Fukushima demonstrates. Although the film moves between two different countries (Japan and Sweden), the distinction only made me think of how specific the nuclear power situation is to Japan. For example, as the people in Iwaishima looked to the situation in Sweden, I wondered – are there fundamental differences between the political, social, and economic situations that may keep Japan from reaching the same conclusion in terms of energy? What about the United States? Will we be able to do the same? Is humanity defined by a specific set of circumstances or can we connect across borders and agree on the same conclusion?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanted to share Atomic Mom with my interlocutor, because I found it interesting that the two women had such different experiences about the atomic bomb and wanted to find out if that cross-generational gap could be crossed in other instances. My interlocutor’s grandparents were interned during WWII and so I asked if he ever felt distance from his family due to the fact that he didn’t himself experience those negative events. What the film demonstrates is that when we attempt to understand one another, what is important in creating a connection is more than shared culture or experience, but a system of values that hold meaning to us. I’m not Japanese, but I can feel an immense feeling of human empathy from learning about the atomic bombings. We have discussed how hibakusha sometimes feel that they cannot claim a right to that identity for not having suffered the same sort of pain or memory as others. But both my interlocutor and I find that if we learn and educate ourselves about these experiences, as MT Silvia genuinely tried to understand her mother, we can gain that understanding. Another thing that this film showed was that the choosing of subjects for a documentary is important. How much of a role does gender play in understanding how these individuals have come to peace with the atrocities of the past? In what ways can you alter the message of a piece by choosing quieter scenes vs. raw footage of physical human and material damage?</p>
<p>Ashes to Honey seeks to answer the question of how we can find sustainability in developed societies that are heavily dependent on energy. Japan has the dilemma of needing nuclear energy but possessing a history of pain inflicted by the atomic bombings. Japan is also a country prone to earthquakes, further raising the need for Japan to look for alternatives, as the current situation with Tohoku/Fukushima demonstrates. Although the film moves between two different countries (Japan and Sweden), the distinction only made me think of how specific the nuclear power situation is to Japan. For example, as the people in Iwaishima looked to the situation in Sweden, I wondered – are there fundamental differences between the political, social, and economic situations that may keep Japan from reaching the same conclusion in terms of energy? What about the United States? Will we be able to do the same? Is humanity defined by a specific set of circumstances or can we connect across borders and agree on the same conclusion?</p>
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